الدعم السعودي للجيش "سيُنفّذ خلال شهر"

It emphasized that Saudi Arabia and France seek to bolster the army “because they view it as a state institution that represents the whole of Lebanon and not just one political camp against the other.”… no one can argue with that.

Allah Yihmeek Ya Rabb for opening our eyes to the truth. Excellent comparisons indeed!

So according to the illiterate flamethrower, his M8 government got the army the 3 billion in military aid. It is a shame such people are allowed to distort the realities.

MAN ARRESTED FOR CLEARING SNOW WITH FLAMETHROWER

http://neighborshame.com/fargo-man-arrested-clearing-snow-flamethrower/

Iranian military aid does not go to Lebanon, it goes exclusively to H.A!

FT which of your distinct ministers in M8 facilitated this grant, was it Mansour or Bassil?

for heavens sake , what are you talking about! You should learn when to shut up.

all we need is defensive weapons ie
anti aircraft missiles , anti war ship missiles , and anti tank missiles
lets see if our army gets these weapons , or old stock of Humvees

French weaponry is of higher quality than Iran weaponry. Our army deserves the best possible equipment. That's all I care about.

Nobody gives us help for free, whether it is Iran, KSA, France or the US. There is always a debt to be repaid down the road. The minute you accept aid, you are compromising the independence of you national decision making. That's the price we pay for being a poorly managed country. The responsibility for this sorry state of affairs is collective and not isolated to any political coalition.

They can send us a cheque anytime.
Russians proposed us outdated aircrafts that need dozens of $ millions to be refurbished and maintained. We need helicos and something like supertucanos.
Plus those MIGs dont come into our defence doctrine.
Iranian cant arm themselves, let alone help us...

could the geniuses like ft and southern, explain us why LAF should get iranian crappy weapons ? Do they ignore that 2006 'war' was mainly fought with RUSSIAN rpg29 and kornet atgw ?
Iran is begging Russia for modern weaponry, and we all saw in South Ossetia war how outdated russia military is...

In all fairness, FT was first called illiterate by Popeye. He was baited and took the bait. You insulted him as well by calling Syrian. If you want to be fair, report both. I'm not doing it, but I'm sick and tired with all those cheap insults that neither help resolve our problems nor cast a positive light on the Lebanese in general.

Iran did offer to equip the Lebanese army with Iranian weapons and when they sat sat down to facilitate the deal the Iranian wanted to discuss the prices and how to pay for it. It was not a gift it was for sale deal.

The only sectarian rubbish only seems to come from FT either take a more balanced view or shut up

It's time for lebanon to come together and say enough!

Here you go again the_roar saudi arabia is lebanons ally and major provider of assistance since day dot if they didn't invest in lebanon we wouldn't have a lebanon because we would be totally bankrupt so do you hate saudi arabia because they are a muslim country or what ?

True i totally agree but Lebanon unfortunately is in a time of need and saudi arabia has never let us down when we needed help

Agreed

I'm lebanese first and last i wish all lebanese would come together and sort out our differences and keep religion a personal choice not a national one

They reconstructed Dahieh and shia areas only pal Iranis only the shia not for lebanese and why would Saudi Arabia not tell its citizens to avoid lebanon when your friend the sewer hiding war hero threatens and blames them for planting bombs

Iran is for shia only not lebanon stop kidding yourselves

Saudi arabia are giving to lebanon and lebanese not just shia i have nothing against shia but this is lebanon and the shia have to accept and live with and respect other religions and stop threatening the country with their weapons when things don't go their way.

could M8ers tell us what has iran done for lebanon?

really ice-man, I am rolling over lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. how do you come up with jokes like that. seriously stop it. you are killing me.

It was Iran and their proxies hizbollah that got us in to the damned war in the first place so spare us this moral support dribble

lol i see.. unable to answer... exactly my point. M8 ers praise iran but they do not know why, only because it supports hezbis but not lebanon...

If H.A are part of lebanon then why don't they obey the laws of lebanese starting with lets say merging their arms with the lebanese army then lets say abiding by the baabda declaration and stay the hell out of syria's war but because they are not part of lebanon they do no comply so save you crap about Iran giving support to lebanon please.

H.A as you call them lost me when they turned their weapons against other lebanese

Also they take that damned AK 47 from the top of Allah's name on that flag they use there's nothing above Allah full stop!

hope they give the army only defensive weapons ie
anti aircraft missiles, anti warship missiles , anti tank missiles ,...
not a stock of Humvees that are out of commission
god bless lebanon

@ all commentators, as usual, typical lebanese thinking, blablabla saudi arabia and iran blablabla. Let me tell you something you might not know or because as lebanese , we like to read the big title and start our illusions. Read details please. This help of 3 billion is on several years, if i remember well on 5 years which comes back to 600million $ a year. Just to inform you in a state that has been paralysed like ours for more than 8 years since 2005, not to mention before with the syrians but hey we could have put the blame on them back them :) now its different. Well 600 million in a year is nothing if you pay 80000 salaries, soldiers , generals,retirements ( as u know how they are high in leb), maintenance of tanks, humvees, artillery , training, clothes, ammunitions. so your 600 million a year is nothing maybe the extras would buy some light weapons, some trucks, and more clothes. its nothing but some tips for the army, not a takfiri-salafist evil plan.

Now if this help constituted 3 billion $ a year, for 5 years, which means 15 billion $, that would be alarming and would have meant something. We could have bought at least 10 F16 or 10 MIG-29, some choppers, 100 new tanks, artillery, etc...

Not defending Saudi Arabia, we all know the vicious stuff coming out of there, but this help is nothing more than a little push for Sleiman and the army to give him a bit of psychological support and maybe to tell him they are here to help him or Qahwaji if they decide a military takeover is the best option, since our lovely m14 and m8 as usual are not finding common grounds on their respective "commissions"

Who are your masters?

Who are your masters FT

Oh don't worry too much about it Southern. Our friend here is merely displaying his exceptional eloquence and agile intellect.

Troll warning. Don't take the bait!

Yes FT khomanei ,adramelech , nasrollah i see the pattern

Don't you worry about it Roar. We're all in this together. All of us who called this country home.

Nothing in the world could make me any happier, know today that the KSA is making good on this grant pledge, that it will be reality within a month. No matter what side we may belong to, today such a grant will finally make our LAF the strong institution that we've all been calling, and for decades now. Finally, once our army becomes a strong, authoritative and assertive army, then believe me all of you, we will be on our way to becoming at loooooooooooooong last, the Lebanon we all want to see, to live in, to serve, to enjoy, prosper ad above all, to be able to tell our children and their children, that they can stay here, work, live and prosper inside their own land. I am one who today says, a big Shukran to the KSA and to those who made it a reality, and I'm thankful that nations are beginning to know our truth, finally.

Right on brother i totally agree , now they accuse you of being m14 or a sunni and any other crap their polluted minds can conjure they don't see the big picture that it's about lebanon and the lebanese only

Fact, do take into consideration that our LAF, plus our air force have been able to repair and keep in working condition equipment that has been around since the last century. What I know is that weapons are purchased with servicing in mind, so in truth there should be no major concerns here.

Hopefully when that happens lebanon will be a oil and gas producer and hizbollahs arms will be merged with the state

Dear jabal, I agree that no one should resort to insults as it really leads nowhere. I read a lot of comments and your defense of flamethrower may seem a bit biased. Please read his comments on the following article and judge for yourself if anyone attacked him first. It seems it his normal mode of operation to insult others.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/113588-mazloum-reiterates-bkirki-s-support-for-all-embracing-government

Warrior, I fully understand that my defence of FT might be perceived as biased. I defend FT's right to express his opinion specifically because he and I don't see eye-to-eye politically. A forum open to all points of views means a lot to me and I am convinced that good will eventually come out of it. Getting opponents of M14 banned from this forum will turn it into an echo chamber, and will widen the divide between us Lebanese.
I read FT's comments on Bkirki article, and of course it is out of line.
FT, M14 are not pigs. They love their country as much as you do but they have a different opinion than yours about what kind of country Lebanon should be. Please attack the ideas, not the person(s) behind it.
Look people, I'm not the person to moralize here. I also reverted to insults at times when some article or comment struck a raw nerve.
All that I'm saying is let's TRY to have a constructive debate, that's all.

for sure the_roar. will do.

Bleaze Actionman, stop insulting the_bore's boyfriend Fifi. Fifi insults everyone, but he is not able to defend himself, because he is in tears from your comments.

What are u talking about??? Everything comes with a price, but what exactly do u think they want from us?? Our oil?

It could be to help keep the Syrians out, seeing that they are losing in their plans there. Bolstering our army could be used to help tackle the jihadist spillover from Syria who are funded by Saudi. It could be to protect all their investments in Lebanon, banks and property included.

Either way, it's not to create an armed militia stronger than the army. On the contrary, it was donated to the army.

Btw, some here are making fun of us for accepting the donation... I just have a question, when you are donating to someone do you look down on him for having no pride?

Lol circle jerk?

I think they want our army. This is not a normal bargain, normally you buy arms, Saudi is just trying to blind people with their dollars again. Very sad

They've already done that a long time ago. Our entire economy almost depends on them.